Saturday, November 1, 2008

Political Impressions 2.0 - Catholics Cannot Vote For Obama in Good Conscious

Catholics you cannot support a candidate who enforces the right to abortion and still call yourself Catholic. I am very weary of so-called Catholics telling me that all things considered, if they ignore that part of the candidate, he is the best candidate. It is not true on so many levels, but most of all, Obama is not the best candidate because of his position on abortion.

I have seen the websites out there that claim that even Catholics can reconcile their beliefs with Obama’s point of view because of his plan for social programs for women—daycare, healthcare for mother and child, abstinence programs, etc. However, it is a fallacy to believe that simply because these social welfare programs exist that they will reduce abortion. That supposes that the choice to have the child will be easier or more likely, or that people will have better ability to be moral.

In fact, having the types of social programs Obama proposes encourages social irresponsibility. There are responsibilities and consequences to the procreative act—the greatest we will encounter in our lifetime—and to remove some of those responsibilities and consequences encourages irresponsibility, i.e., more people will have intercourse casually with lessened risk of having to care for the health and well-being of partner or offspring.

Abortion and contraceptives exploit women more than anything we have seen since their legalization in our nation. A man can use a woman’s body with no consequences. He does not have to respect her or care for her. When he is done with her body, he can leave her. The woman does not even respect herself enough to demand that only one who will care for her and remain partnered with her may have her. Then when she is left vulnerable and with child, exploited, she makes a horrible decision to end this child’s life, because it would in someway damage her own. Further, there are health risks to these things that everyone seems to ignore. I cannot even go into all the reasons that a woman is exploited via abortion and contraceptives.

Obama said if my daughter made a mistake, I would not want her to be punished with a child. Say what! A child is a punishment. That means you, me, everyone was a punishment to our parents, because statistics are that most parents did not plan their pregnancy. That is the message you want your daughters to get? Children are only good and worthy of life if you desire them? (That’s heinous.)

It’s all disgusting. How can one truly justify abortion? Tell me how are you or I any different than we were at conception? Technically speaking, an embryo has the exact (EXACT) same genetic makeup as a full grown adult. The only difference between an adult and embryo is time and nutrition. If you deprive that from a newborn infant, then you are a heinous murderer. But, if you decide at 24 weeks gestation to deprive that, then there are no social or legal consequences placed upon your head. Further, if by some miracle a child survives this attempted murder by his/her mother, the law does not protect his/her life. (It’s heinous.)

I know. Obama does not “support” abortion. He just wants women to have the right to make that choice for themselves. He does not want them to have to suffer the consequences of their own actions, or the consequences of anyone else’s action either. He does not want the American society to have to be punished with an unwanted child. (It’s heinous.)

Do not vote Obama because you think you can reconcile your beliefs with his. You can’t justify this one.



pope52 said...

"Catholics you cannot support a candidate who enforces the right to abortion and still call yourself Catholic."

That might be moreso for a bishop to assert, I would imagine.

ZeroPoint said...
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Renee Therese (Towler) Clayton said...

The Bishop of Dallas did make this point in a recent letter to the Diocese of Dallas.

**note: I do not allow anonymous comments on my blog. You must have a public profile connected to yoour comment. Or, I know you otherwise.

pope52 said...

"A Catholic cannot vote for a candidate who takes a position in favor of an intrinsic evil, such as abortion or racism, if the voter’s intent is to support that position. In such cases a Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in grave evil. At the same time, a voter should not use a candidate’s opposition to an intrinsic evil to justify indifference or inattentiveness to other important moral issues involving human life and dignity."

Renee Therese (Towler) Clayton said...

Tom, I really think you should be ashamed as a so-called orthodox Christian. It seems as though you are defending the candidate's position on abortion. And from this recent quote you posted, you think you can defend and justify his position by the fact that he attempts to achieve some other greater moral good. Tell me, what is the greater moral good in killing a baby who has survived an attempted abortion? Obama’s reason for voting against care for those humans was that he felt it necessary to defend the right for women to have abortions. Further, Obama has not presented any greater proposal involving human life that makes killing innocent life worthwhile.

Finally, my beliefs in life are not the ONLY reason for voting against Obama. I wrote two prior posts stating reasons that I deem Obama unsuitable. I have quite a few more reasons that I have not had time to blog because I am a wife, mother and fulltime worker. However, I found the time in the middle of the night, losing hours of sleep, to write this pro-life blog, because I deem it necessary to go out of my way to defend innocent life.

Here is some pro-life reading from notables for you:

Unfortunately, I really have no more time for this debate.

pope52 said...

I'm afraid there has been a bit of a misunderstanding. My intent was not to support any particular candidate, or to justify Obama's position on abortion as OK.

I was simply concerned that you might be a bit too harsh in passing judgment on the status of the souls of your fellow Christians.

To refer to me a "so-called Orthodox Christian" simply for posting a quotation from a Catholic resource seems rather cruel.

That said, I apologize for any perturbations I may have caused.

Andrew Clayton said...

The truth of the matter, Tom, is that it is not Renee who is casting judgment on fellow Christians but you. Renee merely reiterated the argument made by the Bishops on the issue of abortion. The Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church in America have constantly reminded their flock that it to vote for someone who is so blatantly pro-abortion (like Obama) is to condone the act itself. They have gone so far as to withhold Communion from known pro-abortion individuals. The Bishops state that people who vote as such will have to answer to the blood that is on their hands, since abortion is an intrinsic moral evil.

With that said, Renee is right to shame you just as you tried to shame her on the issue of "judging other Christians." I think what she means to say is that your cynicism and apparent apathy regarding pro-life issues is disconcerting given your faith as an Orthodox Christian. I would have to agree.

I realize that you were not trying to defend or support Obama, but it is obvious to me that you were not well intentioned in your first post. If what you say is true, that you were simply trying to chastise Renee on being too harsh in regard to other Christian souls (which mind you is not at all clear), do us all a favor and do it privately and not publicly. I won't question your soul, but I will question your civility.